When my parents were cub leaders my brothers were
always going camping and the boy scout troops aroungd
here go also. You told me in the past that that church
did not beleave in camping. I want [Ultrason] to go to a
normal Boy Scout Troop.
Now she's accusing me of her delusions regarding the LDS church. In the past I've said a few things that might not be considered favorable regarding that body, but I don't pull ideas like "did not believe in camping" out of my butt. Even if I did, 5 seconds of thinking puts this one in the clear...
How long would a group that didn't believe in camping last while crossing the U.S. in the early to mid 1800's? Not very.
But that's not all the wondernut sent me, for I responded and asked why she is so against the LDS church.
I first of all do not like calling them a church they
are a corporation a cult.
They have false teaching. They go around using Jesus'
name to get money out of poor ignorant people to build
big fancy churches. They are blinding people there own
damnation.
Deuteronomy 12:32
See that you do all I command you; do not add to
it or take away from it.
They added the book of Mormon meaning they can NOT
call themselves Christians.
Another reason that I do not like the LDS that they
have influenced my son. I want my son to have nothing
to do with that! Hencen one of the big reasons you are
not moving him to UT. Then I have less time to teach
him the truth. He is a smart kid and I am confident
that he will see the right way.
Why are you so for them when you do not even attend
the church?
I'll start simple: the U.S. government recognizes them as a religion, and they have "Jesus Christ" in their name. How hard is that? I've been attending an LDS church for about 5 years on a regular basis, and I've seen none of the fleecing she suggests.
Somewhat more complicated is the idea of the Book of Mormon being added, but I'll give it a shot: The Book of Mormon was written and completed before all was over for the New Testament (according to the religion - I think). It wasn't added, but no one knew about it.
But that's stuff I should send to her, and she knows I'll win that argument. The main thing, I think, is the idea of a religion being a corporation. Words like "non-profit" come to mind. The head honchos don't get paid (The LDS church being firmly against "priestcraft" - paying preachers).
Oh, and that this is the religion she said she'd support while in court. For some reason I believe she committed perjury, although I'm not sure. That's still when you lie under oath, right?
Oh, and get your fill of this, as I'll be seriously rewording/moving my site (I haven't decided which yet) in the very near future. I can't stand the idea of her using this against me in court when we next meet.
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As I understand it, lying under oath is perjury. But here's the problem ... you have to know what you're saying is false when you say it. And in order to prove it was perjury, that has to be demonstrated conclusively.
If I express an opinion under oath -- say, for example, that I'll respect someone's choice of religion -- and subsequently change my mind, then it's not perjury. Because I meant it when I said it.
One advantage of being delusional and insane is that one can say something with perfect honesty and fierce conviction, and then turn on a dime and take an antithetical stand with equal fervor. These reversals can even be retroactive ... "This is always what I thought and if you ever heard me say differently then you misunderstood." And mean it.
I've seen this in action, and so have you.
Back to our hypothetical perjury case: I say one thing in court and then the opposite afterward. Either I lied under oath, or I told the truth and then changed my mind later. The latter would be my defense; the former is unprovable. You have to let it go.
Dammit.
It's not just perjury, if the order reflects this attitude (I'll support his Religious choices) and then she doesn't, it's a little thing we lawyers like to call "Contempt of Court" and it IS provable simply by her failure to abide by the order of the Court. Perjury happens all the time...difficult to prove (and expensive). Contempt of court happens all the time too...much more provable.
Ok, maybe I'm just an argumentative smartass, but her little Deuteronomy quote could also be used as an argument against Christianity. As in, we added the New Testament to the Old.
Yeh, I know, don't get into logic arguments with the delusional.
I've looked into a bunch of religions and after a few years in the Army exposed to a wide variety of them, I have got to say that LDS is my favorite. Would I ever consider joining them? Not in a million years as they suffer from some of the same sad logic that binds all literalist interpretations of the Bible. But I have met ONE "bad" LDS while I was in the service. That's a hell of a track record. The religion has a lot going for it, even if it does have some really bizarre things to it. (caffine yes/no? magic underwear, I-get-to-be-jesus-next)
But if the religion acually manages to turn out genuinely nice people. heck... ain't nothin wrong with that.
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